If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn. Obeka, Brute Chronologist "brute" forcing your opponents to end their turns with loops After commander legends I made an Obeka EDH list. 108.1). This site 2023 TappedOut.net, LLC Therefore you must make your opponent's choice to be to not end the turn in order to even propose the loop to begin with. "At the beginning of the next end step" is now used when something needs to trigger after the second main phase. I proceed to combat and trigger Myriad off a Broodbirth Viper and end the turn with Obeka, Brute Chronologist before the end of combat to keep the myriad tokens. 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Commander Color Restriction Rules w/ Component Pouch. Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). Help | I'm not a judge but I'm like 99% sure this doesn't work. The rules manager confirmed this doesn't work the way I'd like it too https://mobile.twitter.com/WotC_Matt/status/1365372480412471296 interesting that they don't consider choices independent actions. You have to choose a finite amount of times to execute the loop. Patrons help maintain an ad-light experience, and are never shown ads. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. Take extra turns with blue/red for three and just say no after that. Sundial of the Infinite - (G) (SF) (txt)Identity Thief - (G) (SF) (txt)Ball Lightning - (G) (SF) (txt)Heat Shimmer - (G) (SF) (txt)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Kougaiji38, you seem to have some misconceptions. Feeds | This is also why myriad works. If you want to completely negate an end step trigger you can wait until it is put on the stack, and then end the turn in response. Then I talk about the interaction with extra turn cards in the "Extra turns" section. If games are about having fun even competitively; this ain't it chief. Don't know if it fits the theme of the deck, but it's an absolute pet card. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.) Out of stock. 719.2e), and any "until end of turn" or "this turn" effects (such as "[[Identity Thief]] becomes a copy of that creature until end of turn") will end during that cleanup step (see also C.R. Imagine the following scenario: [[Aphetto Alchemist]] equiped with [[Illusionist's Bracers]] with our commander out. This site is unaffiliated. 514.2). Ashes to Ashes and Reckless Spite also exist fwiw, and if you aren't certain you'll have creatures out, Tergrid's Shadow can do a bit of work, as can Plaguecrafter or Demon's Disciple, cards Sedris can recur for 2B even. I was playing a buddy of mine over the weekend and he had a good suggestion for my deck, which relies heavily on recurring creatures or making tokens and then keeping those creatures/tokens by skipping the end of turn triggers: darrenhabib how has the deck been doing for you? What if someone else Goatnappers someone else's stuff, and you politic your way into a deal; "Hey, bud, you have a cool creature. If you want to completely negate an end step trigger you can wait until it is put on the stack, and then end the turn in response. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. Artist: Jesper Ejsing. 3) State-based actions are checked. Sets / Printings. If you expect to have multiple opponents, Goad is a very strong effect, Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant is potentially pretty solid, lots of card draw. All combos are rules exploits in one way or another, this one is just more original. by LoneEmberFTW, New Lord What do you think about adding anger, lightning greaves and hall of the bandit lord for haste? obeka - (G) (SF) (txt)sundial of the infinite - (G) (SF) (txt)._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. I'm sure no one else is too surprised though . You're not winning any games this way; you're just starting arguements at the table. Obeka, Brute Chronologist As Commander As Card Average Deck Obeka, Brute Chronologist (Commander) $0.35 $0.25 0.29 TIX 5291 decks (0.269%) Rank #71 Navigation By Theme By Budget All Cheap Expensive Links Aetherhub Archidekt Deckstats Gatherer Moxfield MTGGoldfish MTGStocks Scryfall Average Type Distribution Add to Cart 1; 2; $0.63 . by Maelk. The trigger to exile the tokens happens on your end step, so using Obeka lets you keep the tokens permanently. But as the loop initiator, you are going to have to choose how many times you continue your loop, right? I would even argue there is no loop to propose. DMCA requests | If you use Obeka with Act, you still give the creature back. I could theoretically choose a lower number than my opponent but there's no reason to, and so the loop repeats however many times the opponent chose and now they must make a new decision: end the turn. OP's wrong about how multi-player loops function, though. 11/10/2020. A trigger waiting for "the beginning of the next end step" would trigger on the next turn's End Step (assuming it happens, your opponent might have an Obeka too). Post The gamestate has now returned to where it was before. The active player is the player whose turn it is. All in all, lots of Magic on my mind. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} If that happens, the active player (or, if the active player is not involved in the loop, the first player in turn order who is involved) must then make a different game choice so the loop does not continue. I have Obeka, Brute Chronologist enchanted with Freed from the Real and all the blue mana I need. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. It seems you have the correct knowledge of how Obekas ability works, but here is a link for sundial of the infinite which acts exactly the same as Obeka. Thanks genius for the link. during the end step and while the ability is still on the stack, that ability will be exiled and won't trigger again (C.R. before the end step, the turn will move to the cleanup step (skipping any phases and steps in between, including end steps) (C.R. If the turn ends with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite). This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. Mana Cost: Converted Mana Cost: 4. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. If you run Obeka, Brute Chronologist you can play stuff like Goryo's Vengeance, and she stops eot sacrifices. 2020-11-10. This doesn't work because you are the active player. I use Mass Diminish more aggressively, to make a player hyper-vulnerable to attackers (and make them unable to counter attack), getting two casts is just savage. It might be allowed in the rules, but it seems like a dick move tbh, My playgroup plays with combos like this. This was a great tutorial and explanation of the deck, and well worth the upvote! Card Text. This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. Terms of Use | Obeka, Brute Chronologist can be used during opponents turns, but it is a may ability. Hello been a while since i've posted here but had a question, an issue came up in an edh game regarding the interaction between Obeka, Brute Chronologist and Treasure Nabber. 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Obeka, Brute Chronologist. Should I enter the end phase, then use Obeka to exile the "you lose the game" ability, then during the cleanup step Thawing Glaciers would trigger, and I would need to either use a Sundial of the Infinite, or untap Obeka with a spell or ability and use her ability again? Which is why "the next end step" works, because when your opponent ends their turn its technically the turn after the "next end of turn" and doesn't trigger. Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis). It's akin to "concede or I stall". Because otherwise it would trigger again on the combat phase of the next player, wouldn't it? #EDH #Commander #MTGWe celebrate ONE YEAR of tune-ups with this patron-submitted list led by Obeka, Brute Chronologist! ", Edit: the majority was right. That way the trigger has gone off and will not trigger again at a later end step. It would be the active player not the one who started the loop. Delina, Wild Mage has an effect that creates a token with an ordinary triggered ability, which says "Exile this creature at end of combat" at the time of this writing. 3) State-based actions are checked. Commander / EDH* Casual Combo Haste Jank Multiplayer Reanimator Theme/Gimmick Tokens UBR (Grixis) Unearth. It has " Tap: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. However, I see the argument against you choosing a certain card in the deck to be on top after you imply an infinite number of shuffles, if that was what was really going on. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. Average Deckbox Price. 99.9% of the time you should be ending your own turn, but on the odd occasion you could use it as a tool to prevent other players from using instants during other players turns. Rulings. I lay plans and strategies while bike riding to my studio. Sorry, beginning of next end step on the oracle text for corpse dance, my bad. Doesn't work at all. It no longer is printed on cards (and has been errated off of old cards) to signify a trigger. 1x Canyon Slough. Priority passes to you. From what I understand, end step effects go on the stack and can be canceled by ending the turn with Obeka, but until end of turn effects do not go on the stack and happen with the cleanup step, therefore they cannot be interacted with. ]), Made possible by our patrons, phpBB, Scryfall, and Others. We ask the question "what can we do . Ending the turn skips directly to the cleanup step of the turn. This sounds wild, and awful to play against. The game advances through the lowest number of iterations chosen and the player who chose that number receives priority. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). Legendary Creature Ogre Wizard. Jesper Ejsing. Out of stock. Types: Legendary Creature Ogre Wizard. The ending point of this sequence must be a place where a player has priority, though it need not be the player proposing the shortcut. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. -. 719.1d; see also C.R. 719.1d; see also C.R. Well finally got my sweaty palms on the cards needed for the deck and played out about 10 games. Also, I think loops generally have to do something for a judge to not consider them stalling, and I don't think making my opponent say "no" counts as doing something. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. All of 722 has relevant text to the interaction but the exploit I'm proposing utilizes 722.3 specifically: "Sometimes a loop can be fragmented, meaning that each player involved in the loop performs an independent action that results in the same game state being reached multiple times. Because the trigger for the token destruction is for combat steps only after the original creature (or copies) attacked. Edit: adding comprehensive rules reference. At any point in the game, the player with priority may suggest a shortcut by describing a sequence of game choices, for all players, that may be legally taken based on the current game state and the predictable results of the sequence of choices. Flip) to ensure you can consistently cast stuff. When it comes to Obeka (and [[Sundial of the Infinite]]), there is a difference between "until end of turn" and "at the beginning of the next end step". Necromantic Selection not only clears the field, it also gives you back the best thing, this is extra juicy if you use some sort of Indestructible creature(s) that won't die. Likewise, "[do something] at end of combat" (e.g., in myriad [C.R. Here is how it would work. 719.1d; see also C.R. Feeds | There is also Sudden Spoiling, which is powerful but lasts for that turn, or Polymorphist's Jest, which is similarly a 1 turn solution. Normally, players don't get to do anything in the Cleanup Step, but if something triggers or if a state-based action does something in the Cleanup Step, players do get priority. Good job, WotC. Card Text: . 603.7). RULINGS. obeka, brute chronologist ruling. The other players are nonactive players. " I do not think there has been a day the last five years where I have not had a deck in my hands trying to tune it to perfection. Not if 720.3[edit 722.3] (added reference in OP) takes effect. Obeka interaction question with cards that read "next end Obeka until end of turn vs at next end step. Wouldn't underworld breach exile at the end step of the next player: "At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice Underworld Breach." lothshteth. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. This text, though, is unconventional for an ordinary triggered ability, so read it as "At end of combat, exile this creature". Obeka, Brute Chronologist - All good things must come to an END Decklist CMC Mana Prices Charts Draw 7 Commander 1 Obeka, Brute Chronologist Hand into play 1 Sneak Attack 1 Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded Token copies of creatures 1 Mimic Vat 1 Flameshadow Conjuring 1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker Graveyard to battlefield 1 Araumi of the Dead Tide To make things even more muddy, you have cards like Corpse Dance where their card text reads end of turn but their oracle text reads end of next end step. Also "in turn order" doesn't necessarily mean "starting with the active player". 603.2). Card Kingdom $624 - 564. EDIT (Sep. 24, 2022): Remove a rule citation. . If Obeka, Brute Chronologist is used to end the turn before an end step starts the triggers will trigger on the next turn's end step. Finally, "at the beginning of the end step" (examples include [[Ball Lightning]] and [[Heat Shimmer]]) expresses an ordinary triggered ability that likewise goes on the stack after it triggers (C.R. 719.2e), so that the delayed triggered ability will wait until the next end step whenever that is, even if that's another player's end step (C.R. "If any triggered abilities do trigger during this process, theyre put onto the stack during the cleanup step. Let's Brew with Obeka, Brute Chronologist as our commander on. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} So you would then need to make a choice to not activate Obeka? 2) If there are any attacking and blocking creatures, they're removed from combat. you're trying to force a different outcome via infinite loop. I learned this was against the rules when I'd shuffle my deck for free with a loop in my old Izzet deck, then try to do it again after peeking at the top card with a permanent's ability, but I was told by a player i could not due to the "you are re-looping" rule. Infinity is not a number, so you cannot select it. $0.10. I would see how it could be considered a dick move outside a combo meta, but I'm not sure I understand the argument for this being a dick move within that meta. Oneka's second ruling states Just to make it clear exactly when you should be using Obeka it's important to know when effects happen. by Cobara86, Time after Time I really need more way to get haste into my deck and he seems like a pretty good add that can help cheat big dude into play that meet his restriction. The entire reason Obeka has 'may' in the card text is to prevent this. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. There are two effects to look out for here. Revolving around reoccurring powerful, expensive creatures from the graveyard via cheap spells, there have been a lot of iterations of this concept. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. If the turn ends with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) while the ability is still on the stack, that ability will be exiled (C.R. Potentially showing that Wizards intended the terms to be interchangeable, at least on older cards. 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