2 hours of bad traffic sounds absolutely awful, and I personally would be looking for another job over it. The trains are fine. I used to live in Los Angeles over by the Greek Theater, so I understand the traffic nightmares. When I worked downtown, thats what I did, and while it didnt actually save me any time on my commute (it was probably actually longer), it did cut waaaaaaaay down on the stress for me. Sometimes it was under two hours, and sometimes slightly over. I found anything over 30 minutes was just unmanageable for me. I live in Bernal Heights and work in San Mateo (13 miles door to door) and its usually 35 minutes in the morning and 50-70 minutes in the afternoon, which somehow still boggles my mind every time I sit in it. I read a study in the last few months that said 40 minutes is the tipping point where a commute starts to affect your mental health and it made a lot of sense. Now I live 6 miles away from the office and have a 25-minute drive (on side streets only). It would take me only 15 min longer to walk, which I should probably start doing! However 30 out of those 60 minutes were going the 7 miles from my suburban home to the highway. It sounds like you cant, either. A survivor of a 2-2.5 hour one-way commute who has sworn off long commutes ever since. Orange County comes up in a search for LA in idealist.org, so I didnt even realize it wasnt the same as LA. Yes I am so on board for self driving cars just because of commuting!! and some of the back roads are in run-down or sketchy areas, depending on which part of LA youre in. Call Now To Get Started at 1 . Dont worry about what is normal, just figure out what works for you. My home is only 31 miles away from my office, and my commute takes me 1.5 hours door to door on a good day (no railroad or subway issues). Oh, absolutely agreed re the class element. Now Im in NM and oh my, its wonderful and I never ever want to go back to a big city. Generally, the vast majority of people on the subway are there to get from point A to point B, not to bother other each other or make mischief. Yes! Anyway, I can relate to not liking long commutes. Makes sense if you receive more benefit on the other 6 days of the week. Ouch, that sounds grim. UGH, have lived in the valley, 0/10, would not repeat. Sigh! Invest in it! Traffic is bad here but luckily there are trains so I dont have to keep a car. Again, most of the time for that commute was in-town, close to campus and the rest of is was 45-55+ mph on state roads. When I had a job in the San Fernando Valley the commute was fine because the traffic went in the opposite direction.. I struggle with understanding why more people on the road means everyone drives slower. Or maybe it means you start job searching, ideally being up front about that if possible, so it can be a smooth transition with you helping to hire and maybe train your replacement and him acting as a reference for you. Also, Metro is beefing up security on lines and I would always see sherriffs on board checking fares. I commute a total of 4 hours a day to London from my home town. My commute is outlandish for here in New England. 1) Public transportation: I would drive to a bus stop park-n-ride, then bus in By bus (three buses total) it takes an hour. Direct shot down the 405 (I checked driving times through the Sepulveda Pass every day one week and it went from 45 minutes to 3 hours, because of CA drivers. I dont mind it so much, because I can zone out while riding the subway and Im not dealing with the stress of driving into DC everyday. Then I took a job in Culver City my commute was 45 min-1 hr each way every day, but only 20 min with no traffic! Yeah, I honestly do not want to move into LA at all (I left NYC cause I was tired of the city struggle/high rents) and love where I live. Wake up at 5AM Id bitch about all (And I agree!). This is driving Metro is about 45 minutes each way including walk time on both ends, but Ive mostly quit doing that. There was no traffic. Totally fine. I had a guest tell me, I drove from the Griffith Observatory to the Santa Monica pier and it took me an hour. I told him that hed been incredibly fortunate. I have heard good things about the Dresden Files on audiobook / James Marsters narrates them; I read them before my audiobook obsession began or Id probably have listened to them. long in miles, loooong in traffic. I actually have no idea how far it is to most of the places I go regularly, just how long it takes to get there at various times of the day. Youd think a book about traffic would be as boring as traffic is, but everyone Ive recommended it to has found it really interesting. And there wasnt an accident or anything, just traffic. 1 hour is pretty standard. I had a boss who did a 4+ hr round trip commute everyday just to afford a nicer house in the DC area. Hour commute, though? Ive been trying to reclaim my commute time and think of it as time to recharge, listen to a podcast or audiobook, basically just enjoy myself as much as possible while sitting still staring at taillights. Much better. However, realistically, I might not get what I want. LA resident here, though Im a transplant from Chicago. I hope that youre able to find another job with a more manageable commute! It is a brutal commute. Shortest time was 50 min during winter break, average was 2 hours a day. This works for us, at least so far. You get used to it. Here a long commute is 45 minutes of 55 mph with no traffic jams and people complain about it. Id say the job I had with a 20-minute car commute and the one with the 45-minute bus ride were about at the same stress level. Zero. It was a contract job so it didnt make sense to move) and I hated every second of it. The miserable part was just being completely uncertain on a day-to-day basis what it would be until Im actually out there on the road. You might still be spending 2 hours but at least you can read or play a game or something. The traffic in was non-existent but the end of day traffic was horrible. I hated the long drives, but when you have 3 million people going to the same place at the same time, what else can you do ? This is normal, but its not sustainable. Id be on board with public transportation options too, but given how long those take to get funded & built, self driving cars are more likely to happen first. I used to work about 10-15 miles further down the road, so maybe 45 miles total, and that was an hour and half each way, getting in at 7. That leaves 7 to 8 hours free time- let's be generous and call it 8 hours. My rent is 2x the price now but my quality of life is infinitely better. Its pretty easy to demonstrate that this isnt true just by reading this comments thread. Around noon, it takes about 30 minutes sometimes 20 if, for some reason, theres no traffic. I was living at home with my parents saving up and my 30K starting salary was not nearly enough for an apartment on my own. Isnt the only person to answer this you? A 2-hour commute is both ridiculously long, and also normal for 30 miles in LA. So has anyone had the experience of such a long commute? My commute was on the east side of LA (Pomona to Pasadena), which meant it wasnt as bad, but if you were going to do Pasadena to Santa Monica, yeah, that could easily be two hours each way. You are crossing the ENTIRE LA metropolitan area no matter how you cut it. COL wasnt that bad but holy crap after over a decade of having a commute, it was not good on my overall health. 2 hours! IN the city would probably mean lower income, with a few exceptions. It is making me miserable, therefore I am going to (look for another job closer to home, look for a place closer to work, move back to New York, something else that addresses the problem)., (Also your boyfriend constantly insisting that something you hate is normal is a preeeetty big red flag to me. I would have it written into some sort of contract, if not you will soon find once restrictions are lifted that will turn into well we could do with you coming in on a Tuesday too to oh well this meeting is always on a Wednesday and you need to be here in person for it and we arent rescheduling and before long you will be doing it every day. You know what your time is worth to you. And then there is the increased wear and tear on your car and the associated costs. It would take maybe 10 minutes longer than by car. In Los Angeles if you cant bear a long commute you need a job that is very close to where you live and/or is the opposite direction than traffic. There are a lot of ways to answer the long commute question, its more about finding the right answer for your specific household than the one true Right Answer. by car: 25 minutes. Welcome to life in LaLaLand! Is it 1 hr, 15 mins? I can get through two books a week and draft two articles if I. Many people commute 2hrs+ every day. Only you'll know but it really doesn't seem that bad. My coworkers who lived in Manhattan Beach and had to take the 405 or Echo Park and took the 101 the whole way hated their lives. Im in the DC area and for a year my commute was 1 hr in the morning and 2.5 hr in the afternoon (on good days) so I feel your pain. Im sooo looking forward to it. Im looing at jobs in Santa Monica, so its good to hear the PCH is a nice drive. What I have found in many cities Ive lived, including Los Angeles, is that even though a circuitous surface route might be slightly more miles, it can often be quicker than taking the freeway. (Its slightly embarrassing for a 38 year old guy to admit, but during my last 6 month contract I managed to get through the whole Harry Potter series. Southern California is wonderful, but the traffic is just miserable, but again, it is a trade off for living there. Even stopping to drop kids off at daycare, my total commute whether I take the streets or the freeway is 15 minutes. However, I know not every long distance job has carpool buddies, so I understand that can be difficult. Taking the Metro is consistently 90 minutes, except for that time last week when there was smoke in the tunnel and it took 3 hours. And now that I have a 20-25 minute commute 3 days a week (telework two days a week), I dont think I could go back. It will also wear on your car. While I was doing this, there were some people from National Office (DC area), whose commutes were up to 2 1/2 hours (ugh! If I took surface streets it was about an hour to drive, taking the freeway was 1.5 hours. Normal can die in a fire. I used to commute for 2 hours each way each day, 5 days a week. I used to live in Northridge and worked in El Segundo, 405 all the way. Yeah, I live in SD county, and we could have a shorter commute but we love the city we live in, it is a great space for our kids to grow up + close to the beach + affordable. In the US it'd probably be considered living close to work! OP, your commute is 100% driven by where you live and LA traffic patterns. Ive had a long-ish commute (45min to 1 hr) for years and finally discovered the joy of audiobooks about 6 months ago (as a lifelong bibliophile, I dont know what took me so long). Its a trade-off. I make the most out of my commute today by listening to podcasts, and it doesnt bug me at all, but when I moved here from the Midwest (where I had a 7 minute commute), I absolutely *hated* my commute every day. And its even got the added bonus of freeing up the Pasadena parking lots because fewer people are leaving their cars there, theyre leaving them at the Azusa stop. "It's kind of an adventure to me," says Coughlin . Other people make different choices, though, and thats completely valid. DO NOT DO THIS TO YOURSELF. Good Luck! Im in the Tulsa, OK area and our average commute is 20 minutes so 2 hours is absurd given my frame of reference. 1) ask for a flexible schedule (which is say is unlikely to work) needs and desires, not really about whats normal. If I shifted my schedule later, it could easily stretch to an hour and a half (yay traffic!). Like most long commuters, my drive home was the worst and one little fender bender could tack another hour on my drive. Fun fact, I used to work with that guy at his previous job. LA traffic was nowhere as bad as the 401 in the Toronto area. How does it feel living this close to the FBI? Taking the train or local Staten Island bus, to the Staten Island ferry, to the Manhattan subway, could easily take two hours from south-shore Staten Island to midtown Manhattan if a subway was delayed or the ferry was running a modified schedule. And if you paid extra for the express bus, and there was an accident jamming up one of the highways or bridges it literally could take shorter to fly from JFK to Florida than to travel 15 or so miles from Staten Island to Manhattan. The average commute in the UK is around 59 minutes per day (both ways combined). It is already better than Orange County(by far) and seems about as mobile and easy as Los Angeles, but with more trolleys and light rail, rather than subways and light rail like LA. Take bus. I couldnt handle a two hour each way commute for eighteen DAYS, let alone months. Its not common but, sadly, is becoming more common. used to be 25 minutes until we moved. Is there an accident on I-75 and I might as well pull off and have dinner at a restaurant right now because I will legitimately get home at the same time as if I try to sit here on the highway? OP, this is unsustainable. Do you have a backup plan in case you are just too tired to drive home safely some night? This entry was posted in Health & Wellbeing. And of course the more high-paying tech jobs are added there, the higher the demand for housing there is. Is it an hour today? My employers local office is in Seattle, and I used to live within walking distance. drive (one way). I lived about 8 miles away from work, and it routinely took me 30-40 minutes to get to work, depending on the traffic. Normal rush hour traffic here is apparently about 45 minutes for 15 miles, but its easier to avoid the peak and I got into work in about 15 minutes today. And then the housing is even more expensive. How long does everyone commute daily? The best thing I could find to do was use alternate county backroads to get home once I got off the beltwayit doesnt get me home any faster but as I tell my husband, its the illusion of getting home faster because at least Im constantly moving and not killing my knees pumping the brakes! Unfortunately no. In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with independent researcher, entrepreneur, and fellow metabolism fanatic Gerogi Dinkov. I work in DC and commute from less than 8 miles away. Oh I guess you mean if you have columns of LA vs NYC, not Pros and Cons.. is so funny (someone in the film thinks building freeways will make traffic jams a thing of the past). Sure, traffic lights are a bore, but sometimes its a little easier. Some are cut out for it. Driving would be too stressful. Did the research note distance? 2 hours isnot abnormal for this area. Commuting sucks and I hope you can find something closer to you! Im in Minneapolis-St. Paul, and the commute can stretch into 90 minutes if youre going from one city to the other. Picking Up Three Kids At Two Different Locations In Provo Twice Week. There are weird people in the train sometimes, but theyre no worse than weird train people in other cities. LA traffic is just brutal. Aya's general sick leave policy is that employees accrue one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours worked. I miss some things about city life, but I dont miss city commutes, and I will have to be living somewhere amazing to go back to that kind of lifestyle. 12 miles to the park n ride and 23 miles on the commuter bus (employer pays for bus pass, so I dont have to pay for parking at work). A friend posted a listing for the house next door to her in a nice neighborhood in the DC area yesterday the same house here would be 1.5-2 x the price, and would be on a much smaller lot. Now my commute is 10-15 minutes, depending on when I leave for work. Ahhhhh, Im so happy for you. Former Calli girl here. I choose to live near my social life instead of near work, but its definitely rough. Bad day is about 15. At my old job I lived almost exactly 18 miles from my office. I drive 1.5 hours each way every day for work so 2 hours once a week would be great for me. I know however people are taking it daily to commute to and from Toronto. I have a 3 mile commute to work and specifically chose to live close. Is it possible to break into the beauty industry as a remote worker, ie not living in NYC or LA? I got lucky in that I live in Dublin city centre and also work there. Not in LA, but I was held at gun point by a group of teens in Bushwick near a train stop walking home 2 years ago (if you google it a few reports will come up) and I still have slight PTSD from that. But thats my opinion, and others may disagree. Is your boyfriends work near yours? Its insane. Yeah, seriously. Ive done a 2 hour each way commute, but I hated it. Already decided, not worth it! I am borderline fanatical about not touching my brakes on the freeway for this exact reason. Long Beach to West Hollywood is unbearable for most people, even those of us who are used to it. If you were able to be close enough to work and be car free how much money could you afford to spend on housing to make that happen? My hours are definitely not flexible (ideally Id be working 7 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. I absolutely cannot leave after 4 p.m. without hitting a majorly clogged highway any highway that leads out of where I work) and my boss likes to come in/stay late. I live in a big city with a lot of surrounding suburbs that makes a huge metro area. It doesnt seem excessive compared to the commutes of others in my office. Meaning that a small problem of some kind can bump travel time way, way up and you never know. But I knew that already. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. San Diego is very nice weather and they are working on their transit system. Everything I am finding in research gives somewhere between 30 and 60 minutes as the average commute for the area. Many years ago we moved away from Orange Country and traffic was one of the big reasons. Due to the fragmented nature of public transit in the Bay Area, and the fact that Caltrain runs only once an hour, and the last mile issue, public transit is not much better and indeed could be worse. Everyone is different and your sanity should not be taken up by a commute if it does drive you crazy. If theres absolutely no traffic, I can make it from home to work in about 12 minutes, but with traffic its usually about 25. The time, the increased risk of harm, the wear and tear on your car and nerves. It would be one thing if they kept to themselves while riding the train (which is what most people do) but Ive seen them curse out other passengers for no reason. Native Los Angelino here, Im SUPER LUCKY that I only have a 40 minute (12 mile) commute. 3-4 hours per day in traffic meant I lost 15-20 hours of non-work time each week or a week each month. Former Angeleno here: This is not normal! Weve considered moving closer. This is so true! My commute is an hour and 10 minutes on average by bus, but I read a lot or nap. I did undergrad outside of LA. Im sorry you dont have that. Maybe you can start taking a picnic dinner to a park with him. Im currently in NYC and was previously in Atlanta, both notoriously big cities with bad traffic. But people do. Biking 10 miles in that sounds like a recipe for heat stroke. Pretty sure Id lose my mind if I sat in traffic, barely moving, for two hours. Although I was in school for the first few years in LA, I also consider this a commute. Ive lived in the greater LA area my entire life traveling from the eastern edges of the county westward into LA and a 2-3 hour drive into the downtown area has always been the normal in my experience. She will never be able to afford to buy, and it looks as if Im now permanently out of King County. Los Angeles commuter reporting for duty! 4) Look for a job is a completely different location with less traffic, Cool story. Once or twice a week is fine. This represents 3.6 percent of the national average annual salary, which is $40,690.". I commute 50mins each way by bike but I feel cycling is somehow less frustrating / or tolerable than driving. Maybe Im super paranoid after all the time spent in questionable neighborhoods in my wayward LA youth. 2 hours is bad and I wouldnt call it normal. Now it take 15-25 minutes depending on how long the lines are at the main gate. Oops, I posted something else before I saw this. This is so bad for the environment it makes me want to cry. Get my gun! No matter what normal is, you have to go with whats feasible for you. Totally agree. This one lady lived down in San Jose- not too far, but right down the dreaded 880. It might be 3 hours at rush hour, when offices and schools re-open. 55-1 hour 15. stop and go. I drive 30 minutes one-way and that is about my limit. Anything more would made me very anxious. Thankfully, he likes to listen to podcasts and audio books, so he wont mind as much (I cant listen to them 30 seconds in, and my mind wanders and I miss the whole thing).

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